Today's episode is a powerful one. You're going to hear a behind the scenes look at what it truly takes to lead culture transformation from the top through every layer of the organization, and I have a quick, exciting update before we dive in. Kim Becker, the CEO of the San Diego airport, joined me for this episode to share the very intentional journey that they've been on to cultivate a thriving values based culture, and since our conversation, that culture is continuing to come to life in amazing ways. Kim tells me that now every day she hears the language of their six leadership mindsets in meetings and in conversations, leaders are saying things like, I'm really trying to believe the best in this person. Help me understand why we're doing Blah. Blah. And Kim herself is intentionally tying her contributions in meetings to one of the mindsets, whether it's listening, empathy, collaboration or another, even their performance conversations, which they call coaching conversations, have shifted. Employees are choosing one mindset to focus on, and managers are asking thoughtful follow ups, like, how's it going? What are you learning? What are you adjusting? These six leadership mindsets, listening, thoughtful decision making, believing the best in people, inclusion, empathy and collaboration are not just words on a poster. They're showing up in actions, reflections and results. So stay tuned, because in this episode, you'll hear how they got started, what they discovered along the way and how you can start influencing culture right from where you are. It's an insightful, honest conversation, and I think, packed with inspiration. Let's dive in. My guest today, Kim Becker, is the owner and operator of the San Diego International Airport, and they are talking about culture at the airport. It's infiltrating their conversations, their meetings, and how they're thinking about and approaching so many aspects of their work. I'm glad you're here to learn how they're doing it and the difference that it's making you. Foreign

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Kim, I know that you at the San Diego airport have embarked on a a formal journey, right, a process that you're working through to intentionally cultivate the culture that you desire. Can you tell us why? Why was that endeavor launched? What was the purpose, what was the goal? Why did we start this?

Thank you. We realized we are coming out of one of the most disruptive periods of our our history, not only here, locally, nationally, globally, and as a result of that, the work that we're doing now is very different than before the pandemic, and how we're doing that work is different. And at the same time, we were taking on this major project at the airport to rebuild a terminal and create roadways and the new infrastructure and all that together just really made me look at it to say that we're not who we were before, and we really have to strategically make sure that we're on the same page, and rebuild that sense of team, that sense of camaraderie, and really create a platform for the team to succeed and have as a adapting to that new reality that we're working In. And so I really started with a leadership team, and then it evolved from there. And because I realized you can't just work through the leadership. You really have to involve the entire organization.

Yes, that is great, Kim, because I think so many people when there's disruption. Or they don't think, Okay, this is the great opportunity to create exactly what we want. Let's talk about this. Let's get the camaraderie. Let's talk about like, okay, things have changed. How do we work? Had so many people coming to me in that time saying, how do we get back to the culture that that we used to have, right? But you're looking at, how do we, okay, here's the situation, how do we intentionally create inside of it? Yeah, I thought

about it as an incredible opportunity to grow, because we are, we are going through so much change, not only through the pandemic, just the actual facility. We're even moving to a brand new building, and we had the opportunity to think about, hey, do we want to create something different there? Do we want to, you know, set up the building to facilitate some of this change as well, so we've got every opportunity in front of us to build that platform so that we we could grow as an organization

interesting capitalizing on all of that, what has been the most impactful activity or effort inside of the process you've embarked on?

I believe, I really think that, for me, what's most impactful is seeing some of the results come to light. We have really changed some of the way we go about working. We recognize, we have, you know, our executive leadership team, then we had our directors, we had a manager level, and I recognized and and honestly, the the directors and the executive team recognized that we were not working with our managers as managers, we were not giving them the autonomy that they needed to do their job. We were not bringing them into discussions as fully as they really needed to be. And and so we started to engage that level of the organization and to see them come to life as a result of this. And they, I guess, the voice that they have and the Empower how they are they're empowered, powered and what they bring to the table has just been an amazing change for the organization, and then they have the ability to take it through the rest of the organization, and I see it penetrating throughout the entire group, and it's fun to watch. We're not there yet, but it's fun to see those changes start taking place.

Yeah, absolutely. So I am hearing that this was a really emergent process, right? Like, you didn't know you were going to uncover, like, Hey, we're not empowering this management level in the ways that we can. Can you tell us, like, what were some of the inquiries or the discussions that you had, how laurels, first questions,

sure. I mean, it started. I took the leadership team away, the executive leadership team away for a retreat, and it was really to talk about strategy and where we're going to take are we in line with our current strategy? Where are we going from here, and we started, and I wanted to talk about the culture. You know, are we? Are we doing well? And we started to really focus on the culture. We define what the culture meant to us. We really created what our goals were for talking about culture. And we ended up kind of developing our own, our own strengths, weaknesses, and kind of a start of a culture statement. And then I realized, well, culture, you can't say culture and and say, This is your new culture. You have to bring everybody along. So the next retreat, bring in the director group. And then then we decided, okay, you know, let's take it to the manager level. And then the really, I guess, the impactful part was when we all three came together and shared our experiences and aligned, see where we align, and see there were great differences. And at the end of that, we walked away with a brand new cultural statement that really helped us focus on our G our our goals, and you know what we're going to achieve together as an organization. So it's it was fun and and we really did have different ideas about what that cultural statement should be, and we were able to merge it into one wonderful overall strategy and statement.

Oh, I know that. That's where my curiosity went, Kim, when you were talking about okay, executive leadership had this conversation. Directors had this conversation, managers had this conversation. Can you give us an. Sample, maybe something that was core and consistent through the groups, and maybe something that where there were different perspectives. Yeah, it was

pretty fascinating, because the how we define culture was was fairly common. There was some nuances between them, but when we got to the strengths of our existing culture and then the realities of our existing culture, that created quite a conversation, because, for the most part, we agreed on on the strengths and and where we stood the organization is just such a professional organization and very they were already very had a lot of pride in what we do, and really wanted to be the best of the best, and they worked hard to get there. And we were already talking about belonging and trust and just the empathy of the organization. But when we got to the realities, it was interesting, because the executive team really focused on we went pretty deep, and we said, this is where we see our concerns were when the when the directors of management heard about that, they're like, Are you kidding that that's not what we are. And there was this reaction to

the to the concerns,

okay? And so we kind of had to explain what we meant by some of the things that we had put on the table, and that helped a little bit. But I was, I was very surprised that there was this gap, and the reaction that the team saw had to those concerns. And it wasn't about the way I looked at it. It wasn't about the organization in today's state. It was about things that we could work on to get to that next level. So we, we are very proud of the organization, but you can always improve. And these are the things that we wanted to prove on and I think the team felt that it was more of a well, you know, we have major concerns today, and we're not doing well and just little problem areas. So it was, I felt really proud of them, because they really stood up for themselves. And they were saying no better than we said, Yes, you are. We're doing, you know, getting from good to great, right?

Yes, yes, yes. Ah, it was, it was, it was

eye opening. And I thought, Oh my goodness. When do we start here? But once we once we recognize what their perspective was and what we were really trying to share, I think we came to an alignment then

well, and you never would have heard from the rest of the leadership team and their perspectives on this if they weren't reacting to some information from the executive leadership team, right? I mean, sometimes I see leadership groups trying to avoid what happened there, like we, you know, like we wouldn't want to share something that they could have some kind of possible adverse reaction to. But you have the real conversations. And if people are really having those concerns, if they're really having those thoughts, those are present in the environment, whether we're talking about them or not. But once we bring awareness to them, shine a light on to on them, and say we're here to talk about this, then you can look at them and decide what to do about them, right? And what all the different perspectives are.

That's funny, because one of the items was we don't have enough real conversation. The real conversation, you know, it's just hey, we do really well. We We go into meetings, we talk, we have conversations in the hallway, but we really need to take that to a new level. And that's that was the difference. It's just taking it to that next level was what we were looking for. So

it's exciting when you're having conversations from good to great.

Yes, exactly, exactly. And we didn't do, I'm just waiting to do a great job of communicating that from the very beginning, but this is what our perspective was.

One of the things we recognize is there wasn't enough conversation as as an organization, as the entire leadership of the organization. So we started, we always had directors meetings where I brought the directors and the executive team together. That was every other every other week. And so we started to bring the leadership team into that as well. And called it the leadership team, and that was all the different leaders of the organization. And there we we talked about the cultural journey and cultivating the culture. We talked about strategy. We also talked about day to day, you know, what's happening? And we started putting hot topics on the list so that we could make sure that we all were on the same page. And then we started talking about, okay, how do we take this to the rest of the organization? And we utilize a lot of that team to really take and have these conversations, and we use the leadership meetings as a way to coach one another on how to share this information and get it out to the entire organization, and then bring your stories back, talk about how the conversations went and where we need to maybe tweak or go a different direction, or where we're doing well. And so having more voices at the table just just really helped to create one of the key mindsets, is being inclusive, and that started to help us solve that as well.

Yeah, so higher levels of leadership, if you will. Or being more inclusive, let's get the whole management group involved here. I'm hearing access to information earlier, bringing them into conversations, hearing perspectives of a wider group. And I love this about leadership groups, coaching one another. Goodness. You can think as leaders that like I'm supposed to have all the answers for my team, right, and I'm supposed to know how to message this to my team and bring my team in. But leaders can rely on their colleagues and

absolutely entitlement, you know, culture you can't take, go into a corner, create a culture statement and say to everybody else, this is your culture. We're going to act this way and behave this way. It doesn't work that way. And really creating that larger group and immediately taking it throughout the organization and involving everybody in different meetings that I am invited to, to talk to, to employee groups. We I start the meeting by talking about the cultural conversation, and we've been focusing on our mindsets. That's another area that's not of that we created a set of six mindsets that we felt were really the types of we started calling them behaviors, and I really didn't like the word behavior, because I felt like we were telling people how to act. And so I transitioned. It to mindsets where, you know these are the things that we want to keep in in our our mind, as we're we're conducting business and talking with one another. So we agreed on these six mindsets, and one of them was listening and making sure you're actively listening. I'm really here and paying attention. And so I would go into to various meetings, and I just asked people, How has it been? Because for the about two months, we focused on listening, and then we're transitioning to each of the mindsets for a couple of months to focus, really focus on that. So the first one was listening, and I just say, How did it go? And people were saying, Well, I caught myself. I live, you know, I was on a call and I didn't have my camera on, and the next thing I know, I'm doing work at my desk, and I realized people were practicing it, and they shared those stories and and that human factor came into it, where, you know, everybody realizes, you know, we're not all 100% on at all Times, and you can't be expected to be that way, and to share those moments. It's just fascinating to see how it brings the group even closer together.

Yes, that's that's the that's a great power. Those kinds of conversations amongst the groups, amongst the leadership Kim in leadership development programs, we're often intentionally creating that, right? We have big group sessions, we share some frameworks and some concepts, we practice some stuff. But then we often have peer learning groups or learning circles or support groups, right, where you talk about what you're saying. Kim, how's it going? How does it work? Oh, I realized in practicing the listening mindset that I was multitasking during that virtual meeting, right? I wasn't practicing putting my hands on my lap and focusing on the conversation, and then we'll have leaders at the end of programs go, I'm gonna miss this. I'm like, you can still have this. And you know you're this is, you're not calling it Leadership Development Program or anything, but you're having these ongoing support conversations amongst the leaders with one another, having conversations,

yeah, through this, you know, you realize it isn't something that is, as you said, a program. This is the future of how we want to interact in this organization, and it's about us really taking ourselves to that next level so that we can be better at our jobs and we can be better at bringing new people to the organization and truly empowering the team to grow, and so it is not a program, and that's why we're taking it very slowly. Just to spend we have six leader or six mindsets, and to spend two months on the first one, I thought, oh gosh, are we gonna? Are we gonna get into those other ones? That's a year. Yeah, right. Still gonna going to die. And I think it's really, we're on our second one now, and that's really, it's thoughtful decision making. So we're talking about, how do we make thoughtful decisions, and what can we do to make sure that we are thinking about all the factors of a decision before you're going out, who do you have to talk to? And, you know, what are, how quickly do you make a decision? And there's different types of decisions that you have to make. And so we're working through that. But I really like that we're being very deliberate in this process, really bringing everybody along and getting to the point where people are comfortable and you're incorporating it into how you think every day, rather than trying to pile everything in and you lose half of it.

Yes, right? If you explore something for a couple of months, you have the chance for some of those habits, those new practices, that new way of thinking, the new mindset to really embed, excites me, because you know that you've taken the time to involve the organization in saying what's so for them, saying what they've they'd like, and knowing that these are the six mindsets that everyone's excited and ready and know that they want to explore. So when you're exploring right now, you're exploring thoughtful decision making. What size groups are you in when you're exploring this? How many people are in this conversation at a time?

It's not always formal. It's really being brought into everything that we're doing. So it could be a team meeting within the department. It can be, you know, we just had our, we call sand Live, which is our, basically our all hands meeting and talk about it there. We talk about it. You know, we've really tried. To talk about it, just in conversations. How are you doing today? Have you made a great decision with me? Those kinds of things listening was a little bit easier because it was more something very understandable, thoughtful. Decision making is more of a task that you have to learn, and different steps along the way, so that one's been a little bit more interesting to try. And we just really started rolling that out to try to engage on a on a routine basis. But it really is about incorporating it into your language at every chance that you have with a new organization. And I, what I love is I watch people do it. I hear people talking about it. I see things that are written that have the mindsets in it, or at least firm the mindsets. It's just been amazing, and it's been such a fun journey so far, and we've had, we've had bumps along the way, especially me, yeah, you get to say, What am I doing, and do I know what I'm doing? And how do I make sure we keep this thing moving along, so that we're still bringing everybody along, and they're not saying, Oh, just another program or process that we're going through. How do we make it real?

And what you're saying is, what makes it real? Few really have every leader, every team member, ready and willing to talk about it, into the conference, in bringing into the conversations that are already happening, the processes that are already going on, that is truly how you embed, I get excited about that, like this month and next month, right? We're talking about thoughtful decision making, and you're just exploring that at every opportunity that you get. That's how it really infiltrates, right? It shows up in day to day thoughts and actions. One

of the things that we do for you know, traditionally, people have annual evaluations, but we have coaching conversations here, and they're done on a quarterly basis. And one of the sections of the coaching conversations was behaviors, and so we modified that to say leadership mindsets. And each time with my team, the leadership team, I asked them to focus on one of those for the quarter, as well as part of their coaching conversations, so that also they take and throughout the organization, everybody has that as their behavior. And there's an evaluation process on there. It's a coaching process, but it it makes it elevates the importance and make sure that people understand this is, this is where we want to go as an organization. And here are the benefits of doing that, integrating

it into the processes going on. I love it. Kim, I want to ask so you know, not everybody listening is going to be in your position and be able to say, we are going to launch an intentionally cultivating culture process and initiative here. So to the team leader that's out there. And you know, some things are going well in their day to day, some some things are not on the team. What would you offer to all leaders, and maybe those in like kind of the mid level range. What can they do with their sphere of influence to start intentionally cultivating culture? One of

the things I thought about, and I mentioned it earlier, is you can't take a leadership team and say, Here's your culture, put it on the table and expect it to just happen. What I tried to do was organically create change. And I told after that first retreat, treat the leadership team. The executive leadership team came out of that and and one of the things we agreed upon was the fact that they had the organization. Had to see a change in us. We had to start exemplifying these behaviors. And my goal was that eventually people would say, Wait a second, something's different here. But it wasn't necessarily, this is the change we're making. So I wanted to see it through example. And anybody can do that throughout the organization, and you can even, you know, do it on a personal level, people notice, and they watch, and then it starts to spread, and it's and it's a positive spread through the organization. Once we started to do that, that's when we started to really more formalize it. And the first thing that we did with these mindsets every week, we just send one each of the executive leadership team members would take one of the mindsets and do this really kind of personalized description of what it meant to believe the best in people. And they gave personal examples. And. We just send it out. And we did that for six weeks in a row, and the team was like, What's going on here? And then we introduced, hey, this is what we're doing, but we generated a little bit of excitement first, and that was a little bit in my mind, it was risky. Well, we're doing this without giving any kind kind of context, and it got people involved, and they liked the stories. It created that human factor with this as well,

yes, and something real and tangible, not like this theoretical thing that we're going to do. So I'm hearing folks do some of the work yourself first right. That inquiry about, you know, Team Leader, what do you what do you want the culture on your team to be? What do you want that to look and feel like? What mindsets, what practices would you engage in? And then start demonstrating that exactly right, and let people notice, maybe. And then you can start to share what you're doing, and then bring others in. Kim, you have shared so much great stuff with us today. I mean, first of all, embarking on and allowing this to be an exploratory journey, right, which puts you in places where, like, oh, we gotta, I didn't know we're gonna arrive here. We gotta figure it out from here the inclusive nature of it, which doesn't necessarily mean bring 300 people into the conversation right from the beginning, but have your conversations and continue to widen those groups and include others I'm hearing have the real conversations about what we want, what our current strengths and weaknesses are, have the real conversations about how it's going how are we doing with applying, for example, this mindset. I love the concept of the mindset, right? Because it's a mindset. And then, you know, thoughtful decision making might look really different in my area of the organization, the airport, than another area, right? Thoughtful decision making might be quick in some areas of the organization and might be slow down and consider a bunch of stakeholders in other areas of the organization? Yes, I thought there was one more thing that I was going to say, bringing those real conversations into your day to day and into existing processes, right? Because then it's not this separate thing that's happening that we forget about until we're invited to a culture specific meeting,

and that was really critical. We took the same approach with the strategic plan. People put a strategic plan together, put it in a shop, and a year later they look and say, Oh, how are we doing? We bring that out. We talk about it regularly, and we have different focus areas, and we recognize that really the strategy is going to change over time, and it really is about bringing our entire purpose to light. That's how you do it, through the strategy, but that strategy can be stalled or accelerated through the culture of the organization. And so we were able to merge that strategic thinking and the culture. And actually, part of our strategic plan, we modified and put a whole focus area called cultivating the culture. And so we entered, we merged the two efforts together. So again, it's, it's who we are, it's how we act, it's, it's what we're doing, rather than, here's a program, and that was really important to me.

It's so inspiring. Kim, I think I was exactly right in thinking that the courage of a leader podcast listeners needed to hear this story. Thank you so much for joining me today to share it. Really appreciate

it. Yeah, thank you for having me. It's been a very fun process, scary at times, but if anybody can take just a little tidbit away, I'm

really thrilled. I am sure that they can. Thank

you, Kim, thank you.

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